Unresponsive "set" triggering with live.object

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Sat, 01/23/2010 - 15:43

ldamrosch

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Unresponsive "set" triggering with live.object

There's probably a very obvious solution/explanation to this, but I'm tired of beating my head into the wall

I'm working on a very simple patch to observe the state of the loop bracket in arrangement view and, based a few parameters, potentially turn off the master record button if it has been on.
I am using several live.observer objects to monitor the loop position and other information -- these were a breeze to setup...
The output information is being filtered through several "if" objects to selectively output a bang (to a live.object) in only a few specific cases.
However, the critical problem is that these bang messages seem to be unable to trigger the "set record_mode 0" message leading to the live.object. When the "set record_mode 0" message is clicked directly, or even when the switches leading to it are flipped manually, the message is transmitted with no problem. But when I leave the patch to its own devices, I just watch as the toggles turn on and off when appropriate bangs are sent while somehow the "set record_mode 0" message is unresponsive.

Any thoughts? Needless to say, I apologize in advance for wasting everyone's time if this is something stupidly obvious...

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 16:36

mchenetz

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Does the output window (CTRL-M) say anything? I would have to see the part of the patch. Can you copy it in compressed format by selecting the patch and going to edit-> copy compressed and paste it into this forum?

Mike

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Sat, 01/23/2010 - 23:25

ldamrosch

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Thanks for your quick response, Mike.

Unfortunately, after tweaking a few things to make the patch cleaner and simpler, I started getting an error message in the output window, which I think explains the issue.

The error reads "Changes cannot be triggered by notifications" which certainly does explain the problem...So is there really no way to use live.observer objects to automate the sending of "get" or "set" messages to live.objects? I understand that this is perhaps what live.remote~ is for in general, but I am under the impression that it is only for controlling Device Parameters...

Thought I was onto a nice little solution for this problem of not being able to use Live's loop bracket as a true looper, as it were. That is, being able to arm the record button, lay down a layer, and have the record dis-arm automatically at the end of the loop, regardless of its length.

In case of interest, though, or if you have any ideas how this basic function could be achieved one way or another, here's the code:

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Luke

Tue, 05/25/2010 - 09:43

Anonymous

Having had the same problem (i.e. error) in a different domain, I've found this topic on the Cycling 74 forum: http://www.cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=23408

All I had to do was placing a deferlow object before my set message. Of course: YMMV.

HTH,

Andreas

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