Tutorial: Max For Live Clips

what is to do -to make of this code a M4l patch???

Select the data from to and right click and select copy

Open up Live, drag a new max midi device onto the blank area on the screen (Where there are no tracks) or onto a midi track. Click the edit button in the patch and then make sure the patch is unlocked and right click in a blank area and paste.

Mike

thankz - that works!

Hello,

I'd like to upload this patcher, this is how far I have gotten for now with m4l:


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The leftmost part is just a tool to trigger clips by defining track and scene number. In the center there is a first attempt to use "getcount tracks" for my selector to automatically have only existing track numbers in its range. I cannot figure out why the right inlet of the multiplyer is not always receiving the current track count. Can someone help me out with this? Also, once this is fixed, ideally the selector should be updated by track count changes (erasing/adding tracks). Can this be done?
On the right I have added another small patcher that does something similar to the leftmost example, but with one coordinate only. Does it need to be so complicated? (I mean number->prepend->pack->message) Or is there an easier way to get the same result?

Thank you very much for any help and suggestion

If you use the live.path live_set view detail_clip to feed the live object, you can act on the highlighted clip. That way you don't need to select the track and the scene.

Yes, except that live_set view detail_clip wants me to first select the clip by mouse, and then trigger it. I want to do the selection from external controls. As a controller I only use a Korg NanoKontrol, so I'll need to define x/y coordinates, plus a trigger. Additionnally, it would be neat to have a toggle between "choose scene" and "choose single clip", so for now I think this whole control station can be achieved with 2 buttons, 1 fader 1 knob, like on the illustration.

By gergelysuto at 2010-01-04

Now, ideally, I'd love to do selection itself from the external controls (i.e. the ability to scroll the highighted track/scene directly from the controls), and then, address "detail_clip" or "selected_scene" as you suggest. This would be perfect visual aid. But from reading the LOM, I am just hoping it can be done.

Ok, I haven't seen it was for a nanokontrol.
Is this way of going somewhere whithin the live set using a knob and a fader really efficient in a situation where you're playing music?

I would say that if this last thing that I was talking about: move/scroll the highlighted track and scene coordinates and visually check that I am at the right place, and THEN trigger - can be done, then it definitely is. And with all the native clip management options Live already had (follow actions etc...) I think it can be as powerful as anything else.
Btw. I am mostly using Reaktor plugins in Live, and there too, the nano works perfect. So if I just need to conceed 4 out of 42 controllers to the Live clip/scene management, well, it can be a pretty good setup.

Ok here is a quick and dirty example that just uses the M4L.api abstractions, I would say I am not afraid anymore that the thing I am trying to do couldn't be done. Though, the method used by max to assign arbitrary ID numbers to relevant scene or track coordinates and what is going on around the M4L.api.RemoteMatchIdToIndex puzzles me. I still need to understand a bit better if I want to replace the toggle up/down left/right functions by linear changing.


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For the scene selection you can simply assign your fader using Live midi learn. When you enter midi learn mode there's arrows in the master track mixer, this is use to scroll between scenes.
I use this with 2 buttons on my midi keyboard.
I also have a button assign for each track I'm using, so I can select clip easily.
What I'm doing is:
My midi keyboard has 10 presets or programs per bank. It also has transport controllers.
I have one preset for each track.
For each program the transport buttons are assign like this: backward move scene up; stop stops the selected clip; record button is assign to the arm track button of the track so I can toggle between recording/playing; play button is... play if arm is off and, thus, record if arm On; forward scrolls scene down.
If I want to play or record a new clip on the fifth track, I select my program 5 on the controller. Then use my backward/forward to select the scene I want within this track (the track is midi learn to my program 5 button), and then arm if I want to record a new clip, don't arm if I want the clip to be played.
All of this is done using midi learn only.
Hope it helps you.
It's late so I won't have a look at your patcher now, sorry.

thank a lot